These shoes have a slipper like feel to them with plenty of room, so even after 18 holes i don't find they pinch at the toes at all. The removable insole is a nice feature so you can have more or less room for you foot to fine tune the fitting. The cleats are a little too hard on summer hard ground so I swapped them out for some soft cleats for walking on occasional summer ground and the originals are reserved for winter . These are expensive and i have only used them 10 times so far so can't comment on waterproof durability long term but in wet weather they have been fine.
